For those deeply and truly concerned about being anti-racist and checking their shit…
How prepared and comfortable are you with the notion that even if you do everything right, some PoC/non-white/Indigenous people will never trust, like, or love you? That…
I understand the context of your grievances and this is in no way meant to be offensive. I just wonder if maybe, maybe you’ve taken your deserved and well-intentioned indignity a bit too far.
For all of your examples, I’d appreciate you citing sources other than yourself, but c’est la vie. The ones you do cite take issue with various bad practices - and they are bad, no one is disagreeing with that. But just because one person is attempting to exploit yoga, no one should do it? I’m from the District of Columbia and let me tell you, if I stopped participating in all the programs with rotten eggs at the top - well. Race shouldn’t be a factor at all, it doesn’t matter who’s perpetuating the injustice, although you should know that the culprits in D.C. range across the color spectrum.
There is an uncomfortable history in a lot of things, tattoos being only one of them. Should we stop celebrating Thanksgiving because of its less-than-comfortable origins? Should we just boycott all Western Europe in general? Because they did some pretty shitty things too. But people of color still move there, visit there, are accepted there. What’s wrong with the study and learning about diverse people and cultures, exchanges in both directions? It serves to promote understanding, not advance hate.
But hey okay I think we’re going to disagree no matter what so let me say this: I wish that no one would tell anyone what to do, and that no one would be burdened by race. Easy for me to say, right? But it starts with one. I’ll endeavor to treat everyone as I’d want to be treated regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation or anything else they feels sets them apart; and if you want the same, then maybe what I’m saying has the teensiest grain of truth. :)
Lol at the bold. Seriously. Only one person exploiting yoga? Um… how does a whole industry count as one person? And who do you mean by ‘no one’? White people? Because I haven’t said anything about Indian people practicing yoga (may your tradition live for always).
I’m dying at the mention of thanksgiving. It is clear you’ve never read anything written on the holiday by an Indigenous person.
Oh. PoC move to europe and are accepted there? Really? Really!?
You wish no one would tell anyone to do anything? Okay.
Did I seriously, even once in my OP or my responses, actually tell anyone to do anything?
The questions were rhetorical. Something to encourage white people to reflect on their privilege in a larger context than just their lives.
And the last bold, actually, no. I don’t want everyone treated exactly the same. At all.
(also… i can cite myself if i want. i did research for those posts. but wait. it isn’t like you couldn’t have done the same research to fact check. it isn’t like i entered simple queries into google and found my info in the first page of results. nope. nothing like that at all. i’m just citing myself and making shit up.)
And white people have repeatedly proved the original point you were making all throughout this convo.
None of you give a shit about being anti-racist at all. You just care about your whiteness being respected and how you can make PoC respect it.
This is why I stopped making lists of do’s and don’ts for white people. They think if they do or don’t do certain things, then PoC will like them and will never complain about their whiteness.
They are only interested in getting us to stop complaining, not being anti-racist.
It’s not about what to do or don’t do, though you should make an effort not to be offensive assholes. It’s about respecting PoC’s judgments about you, not find ways to get PoC to stop complaining, ie disguise your white supremacy in ways in which PoC will swallow it. Give PoC the CHOICE whether to trust you as an anti-racist ally, and do what you can to establish trust, instead of thinking that if you do or don’t do this or that, PoC OWE you trust.
If a white person stopped doing yoga, that, by itself, won’t make them any more trustworthy. But people have been whining and complaining about your examples and are afraid that PoC will see their supremacy because they do yoga.
Nah, we see it, regardless if you do yoga, because of how you’re acting when it’s revealed as problematic.
Some PoC will trust you, some won’t, and you ARE going to fuck up. But a lot of white people don’t want to fathom some PoC not giving them trust they feel entitled to, and they get upset when PoC don’t trust them even of they follow all do’s and don’ts perfectly.
Racism is the most accurately detected in PoC’s guts. We will listen to that in the end, white people, no matter how inoffensive you act. And then, because PoC are different people, there might be different opinions about you.
So are you prepared for that, or are you going to throw a fit because PoC don’t owe you trust, and there’s nothing you can do to make PoC respect your whiteness?